Wikipedia is crowdsourcing.
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Showing posts with label Shirky. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Shirky. Show all posts
Sunday, September 19, 2010
Wednesday, November 18, 2009
Monday, November 02, 2009
You, Crowdsourcing
Dan thinks we could have crowd sourced the whole book.
Courtney wonders if we are all historians now. I'll let her elaborate.
The question at the end of this Kasey post is a great one. (and thank you, Jess and Sheila for commenting.)
Jess is mulling the nature of free effort. Some of the examples of crowdsourcing here are interesting to contemplate.
Courtney has found a new thinker she likes. She studies the ways people communicate. Interestingly, Jess has a story that kind of syntheiszes that thinking.
This is Shirky (via Courtney) on the dark side of crowdsourced movements. It DOES seem as though boycotts are a natural fit with crowdsourcing. I have some ideas about building, instead.
Kasey knows Meetup. And likes it.
Actually, one of these quotes cited by M. Dwyer is one I'm not sure I agree with. I think Jess has the same problem I do. And it wasn't just the white bicycles either.
Sheila is not sure she believes the old media will be Shirkianly obsolete. Neither is Jess. And Lisa is intrigued by the whole definition question. One thing we learned, thanks to Jess, is that Shirky is not sanguine about it. Not dancing on the grave at all.
Lisa gives the subject a second look. I like the phrase "nascent phase of mass amatuerization."
Greg, on stolen phones. What makes something go viral?
Courtney wonders if we are all historians now. I'll let her elaborate.
The question at the end of this Kasey post is a great one. (and thank you, Jess and Sheila for commenting.)
Jess is mulling the nature of free effort. Some of the examples of crowdsourcing here are interesting to contemplate.
Courtney has found a new thinker she likes. She studies the ways people communicate. Interestingly, Jess has a story that kind of syntheiszes that thinking.
This is Shirky (via Courtney) on the dark side of crowdsourced movements. It DOES seem as though boycotts are a natural fit with crowdsourcing. I have some ideas about building, instead.
Kasey knows Meetup. And likes it.
Actually, one of these quotes cited by M. Dwyer is one I'm not sure I agree with. I think Jess has the same problem I do. And it wasn't just the white bicycles either.
Sheila is not sure she believes the old media will be Shirkianly obsolete. Neither is Jess. And Lisa is intrigued by the whole definition question. One thing we learned, thanks to Jess, is that Shirky is not sanguine about it. Not dancing on the grave at all.
Lisa gives the subject a second look. I like the phrase "nascent phase of mass amatuerization."
Greg, on stolen phones. What makes something go viral?
Print and stuff
Some of you will enjoy this ode to print. The part at the bottom about the page of paper and highlighter will especially please Courtney A. and Dan.
But print culture struggles with digital culture.
My question to you is this: Assuming that the first link is correct, it still seems imperative that any print operation adopt some Shirkyan ideas. What changes should it make, based on what you read in the book?
I will tell some stories tonight about print vs. digital.
Re-thinking Shirky, it seems to me that one of the issues -- re-self-publishing -- is the elimination of guesswork about what people care about. I will explain tonight.
But print culture struggles with digital culture.
My question to you is this: Assuming that the first link is correct, it still seems imperative that any print operation adopt some Shirkyan ideas. What changes should it make, based on what you read in the book?
I will tell some stories tonight about print vs. digital.
Re-thinking Shirky, it seems to me that one of the issues -- re-self-publishing -- is the elimination of guesswork about what people care about. I will explain tonight.
The Bald Truth
Jessica is all over this book. She always finds relevant videos.
So does Kasey.
Make sure you check in with Courtney who found, among other things, a different video of Shirky.
So does Kasey.
Make sure you check in with Courtney who found, among other things, a different video of Shirky.
The Rise of a New Leisure Class
The chapter on the Geohegan case in the Boston Archdiocese made me think, oddly enough, about the whole theory about coffee and the Enlightenment. Shirky describes a change from 1992 to 2002 mainly in terms of technology. But what other, underyling conditions must be in place?
Sunday, November 01, 2009
The future of me?
Obviously, I am very interested in Chapter 3.
Shirky argues that professional journalists are like scribes -- that their skill set and very identity are sliding toward meaninglessness. Do you agree? Why or why not? (Hint: the writer in this link seems not to have absorbed the Shirkian message.)
It's OK. You don't have to protect me.
This article is outstanding. We're going to need it as we go along in the weeks to come.
How many people in class have iPhones?
Shirky argues that professional journalists are like scribes -- that their skill set and very identity are sliding toward meaninglessness. Do you agree? Why or why not? (Hint: the writer in this link seems not to have absorbed the Shirkian message.)
It's OK. You don't have to protect me.
This article is outstanding. We're going to need it as we go along in the weeks to come.
How many people in class have iPhones?
Flickr
I'd be willing to bet that some of you have far more experience using Flickr than I do.
I like Shirky's concept of abandoning any hope for managerial oversight of photographers and instead creating tools for the self-synchronization of otherwise latent groups.
I've been thinking about that a lot and about what its impact would be for professional journalists and other professional photographers. Some have tried to collaborate with Flickr. What are your experiences and your thoughts.
I like Shirky's concept of abandoning any hope for managerial oversight of photographers and instead creating tools for the self-synchronization of otherwise latent groups.
I've been thinking about that a lot and about what its impact would be for professional journalists and other professional photographers. Some have tried to collaborate with Flickr. What are your experiences and your thoughts.
A Lott more
Please read this, if only because it fleshes out the Trent Lott story in the book. (One of the lesson of the Web and books, I gess, is that no story is ever really finished.)
Do not shirk Shirky!!!
I hope you have been reading Shirky all week. I'm going to start offering some supportive materials here, including, for Chapter One, the infamous website itself. If you read down the bottom links, it's kind of funny the ways he is pissed off at Wikipedia and competitive with the dog poop girl. He is mentioned here. So is she. (I think one of the things WP is doing is categorize misc. stuff.) Worth reading vis a vis our topic right now.
It's sort of karmically weird, but the particular device that was stolen turned out to have a subsequent history.
The sidekick crash was big news and created other side dramas.
I keep coming back to what Courtney has written about the question: to what degree does all this kind of data -- stored elsewhere -- represent a kind of alternate consciousness? Maybe that's why we need new narratives about what happens to it.
It's sort of karmically weird, but the particular device that was stolen turned out to have a subsequent history.
The sidekick crash was big news and created other side dramas.
I keep coming back to what Courtney has written about the question: to what degree does all this kind of data -- stored elsewhere -- represent a kind of alternate consciousness? Maybe that's why we need new narratives about what happens to it.
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